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Updated on Thursday, March 10, 2011

#212

Overheard:
Girl: The feminist movement really f**ked us over. I just want to stay home and have kids but now I have to go to school and get a job.

15 comments

  1. im withcha sista

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  2. Gender equality is about giving women choices, not about taking them away. No one said you couldn't stay home and have kids.

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  3. I'm a dude, if she gets the choice to stay home and raise kids, then I should be able to have the same choice!

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  4. Actually #2, with woman working, the cost of living has gone up substantially, meaning that if a woman doesn't go to school and work, she may not be able to afford what she needs in life, unless of course she marries rich. While gender equality is good, the overall idea backfired.

    #3, men have that same option, but same thing applies as above.

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  5. 3, men absolutely have the same option. I'm great with kids and love them to death, but with my career goals I'm likely to make more than my boyfriend will. He's already made it clear that he doesn't mind being a "mr. mom" and I couldn't be happier.

    you have to do whatever makes sense for your own situation. I'm sure a lot of women out there would agree that they would feel relieved about someone else wanting to take over around the house, even if it's only half the time.

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  6. What 4 said.

    Did you know there are tons of government supports and tax credits available to women (or men) to help them afford childcare while they work (which is awesome), but there are no credits or supports available to women (or men) who want to raise their own kids? Think about that for a minute.

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  7. @6: Quite scary, some of us are more competant than our daycare providers could ever be. I also don't want my child being raised with someone else's values.

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  8. ^ I would hope that most are better than the daycare providers
    @6: It's interesting
    State 1: One parent working, other taking care of child, not much money, no support
    State 2: Both parents working, more money + government support...wha?
    Although I am not entirely convinced that your statement is true, it is entirely possible that there are program to help in State 1 that you are just not aware of.

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  9. @RL: 6 here, my mom stayed at home to raise myself and my two younger sisters while my dad worked. Trust me, if there were supports we would have used them. There were only supports for having kids in general, that were also available to parents who use day care.

    It goes further too. The system is not set up for one parent to work and one to stay at home. The fact that we were a family of five on one income did not affect the tax calculations at all. If both my parents had low paying jobs that paid half of what my dad was making (thus, the exact same amount of income to support the same family) they would have been taxed differently, and we would actually have been able to bring home MORE money than we were with my dad working the single high paying job. Because both parents were expected to be working. It's ridiculous.

    It's not just the money factor either, stay at home moms/dads get a lot of negative stigma from the rest of society. Even if you can manage the financial side of things, you have to deal with the emotional toll of being viewed as lazy, not having a 'real' job, not contributing to society, wasting your education etc.

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  10. I feel this way sometimes, too!

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  11. ^ What's a girl to do?

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  12. @11: Keep fighting for equal rights. A lot of people seem to have it in their heads that women are equal already. We certainly have it a lot better than we used to, and here in north america we certainly have it a lot better than in most parts of the world... but that doesn't mean the inequalities that still exist don't matter.

    I received a LOT of flak this women's day for my arguments and defense of the issue. Whatever. Women's rights are such an incredibly recent development. When I see signs of equality going backwards it terrifies me. Won't take much for the women's rights movement to become a tiny blip in history. That's why we have to keep fighting until equality is truly achieved, and keep fighting to keep it there.

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  13. @12: you're on the right track, but that alone isn't enough. Forget about women's rights, forget about the rights of any one group. Our society is pretty shitty overall. No one is truly equal, and it disgusts me. Something needs to be done for all people, but I don't see how.

    In the meantime, let's do what we can to fix the injustices we can do something about.

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  14. People like you make me sad. You must have such a boring life if your only ambition is to spend all your time changing diapers.

    Babies are great, sure, but don't you have any interests besides making little versions of yourself?

    You should feel privileged to be in school and able to get a job.

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  15. Totally agree with OP! I would love to be a housewife with kids and a great husband!

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